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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Minutes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The topics of the call were about the current California aftershock forecasting experiment at the SCEC Testing Center and developing evaluations for simulations that produce stochastic event sets.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;* Verify with Ned: Does no faults ETAS include characteristic earthquake behavior? If a large earthquake does not rupture on a known fault does that produce an isotropic aftershock distribution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Verify with Ned: Does no faults ETAS include characteristic earthquake behavior? If a large earthquake does not rupture on a known fault does that produce an isotropic aftershock distribution.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Characteristic EQ Behavior: the larger earthquakes in a segment are overrepresented wrt to their extrapolation in a GR plots.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Characteristic EQ Behavior: the larger earthquakes in a segment are overrepresented wrt to their extrapolation in a GR plots.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The aftershocks still follow GR (in ETAS), so the larger proportion of large earthquakes causes more aftershocks and can lead to runaway sequences.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The aftershocks still follow GR (in ETAS), so the larger proportion of large earthquakes causes more aftershocks and can lead to runaway sequences.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Wsavran: Created page with &quot;CSEP Working Group Home Page&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;  ''Participants'': William Savran, Andy Michael, David Rhoades, Jacqui Gilchrist, Warner Marzocchi, Max Werner, Ann...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/scecpedia/CSEP_Working_Group&quot; title=&quot;CSEP Working Group&quot;&gt;CSEP Working Group Home Page&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Participants&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: William Savran, Andy Michael, David Rhoades, Jacqui Gilchrist, Warner Marzocchi, Max Werner, Ann...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[CSEP_Working_Group|CSEP Working Group Home Page]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''Participants'': William Savran, Andy Michael, David Rhoades, Jacqui Gilchrist, Warner Marzocchi, Max Werner, Anne Strader, Dave Jackson, Phil Maechling&lt;br /&gt;
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= Minutes =&lt;br /&gt;
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== Simulations == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 * Verify with Ned: Does no faults ETAS include characteristic earthquake behavior? If a large earthquake does not rupture on a known fault does that produce an isotropic aftershock distribution.&lt;br /&gt;
* Characteristic EQ Behavior: the larger earthquakes in a segment are overrepresented wrt to their extrapolation in a GR plots.&lt;br /&gt;
* The aftershocks still follow GR (in ETAS), so the larger proportion of large earthquakes causes more aftershocks and can lead to runaway sequences.&lt;br /&gt;
* David Rhoades simulation-based model can produce stochastic event sets. With little modifications.&lt;br /&gt;
* How long will it take until we know whether or not faults make the difference in the simulations?&lt;br /&gt;
* Can deal with fault-finiteness by pulling from the ComCat or looking at earthquake aftershocks&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Evaluations ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Warner and David supplied a document outlining the new possible tests for CSEP2 simulation- based tests.&lt;br /&gt;
* Tests typically follow CSEP1 consistency testing ideas with some emphasis on formulating likelihood based tests. &lt;br /&gt;
* Need to put some more effort into understanding likelihood (comparative) based-testing.&lt;br /&gt;
* Paper on proper scoring: https://www.stat.washington.edu/raftery/Research/PDF/Gneiting2007jasa.pdf&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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